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	<title>Comments on: Allah only for my religion &#8220;Islam&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Harry Romijn</title>
		<link>http://jakartaku.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/allah-only-for-my-religion-islam/#comment-2620</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Romijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, when these Malaysians stand for the Allmighty, they can tell: &quot;Yes, we forbid to use the holy name of Allah, the One who opened himself to Abraham, for others than those who follow the way to You according to the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.&quot;
Sorry, but I can NOT do so. Whatever name you want to use to address yourself to the Creator, none of them I can forbid you to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, when these Malaysians stand for the Allmighty, they can tell: &#8220;Yes, we forbid to use the holy name of Allah, the One who opened himself to Abraham, for others than those who follow the way to You according to the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.&#8221;<br />
Sorry, but I can NOT do so. Whatever name you want to use to address yourself to the Creator, none of them I can forbid you to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuhan, Dewa, Allah for wording of the Constitution? &#171; Shariah @ National Law</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuhan, Dewa, Allah for wording of the Constitution? &#171; Shariah @ National Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allah only for my religion “Islam”? « Pernak-pernik jakarta Malay Women in Malaysia: Johari Baharum was right [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 10:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the liberal thoughts I found in the Jakarta Post.

A merry Christmas to all - including Muslims

Muhammad Nafik, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

A Merry Christmas for Christians and Muslims. Why Muslims? Because Muslims should join festivities that commemorate the birth of Prophet Isa aka Jesus Christ.

The Koran actually cites not only Jesus&#039; birthday, but also two other important moments in his existence -- his death and the day of his resurrection. This is clearly stated in Sura Maryam (Verse of Mary): 33, &quot;So peace is on me (Jesus) the day I was born, the day that I die and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)&quot;.

If the Koran itself recorded Jesus as such, how come Muslims were prohibited by ulema from wishing Christians a merry Christmas? This goes against the fundamental truth of Islam.

If we are consistent in our faith, recognizing Jesus as a prophet in Islam, we should not hesitate to join his birthday celebrations. Whether our own celebrations are held in a different manner to Christians&#039; is not an issue.

The statement in the Sura Maryam should, therefore, end the controversy of whether Muslims are allowed to give Christians a Christmas greeting.

Debates on this sensitive subject have continued to resurface each year, since the Indonesia Ulema Council issued a fatwa in 1981, banning Muslims from greeting Christians at Christmas.

The council said such behavior had bad implications for Muslims&#039; common faith in Isa. The ulema said the greetings implied Muslims justified the Christian belief that Jesus is God, while Islam recognized him as a prophet.

The claim, which seems to be supported by many (if not most) Muslim clerics, was exaggerated and seems not to make sense given that greetings are a social courtesy. What is not allowed is for Muslims to be engaged in the ritual aspects of Christmas.

In the Koran, Jesus Christ is named Isa Almasih. He is described as a figure with many privileges, who was born without a father -- which Christians similarly believe.

While Jews accused Jesus&#039; mother Maria (Maryam, Mary) of adultery and rejected his presence on earth, Islam considered him one of the Ulul Azmi (five supreme prophets) comprising Muhammad, Abraham (Ibrahim), Moses (Musa), Noah (Nuh) and Isa (Jesus).

This is evidence that Islam recognizes and respects Jesus&#039; nobility, and is the reason why we should celebrate his presence on earth, which served as a torch for the world in times of darkness and hopelessness.

Another substantial religious reason for Muslims to greet Christians during Christmas is the fact that the Koran promotes pluralism between communities of different faiths, ethnicities, cultures and groups.

The spiritual objective of this is for us to know and learn about people from other groups (li ta&#039;arafu), to stop us fighting one another (li takhashamu), considering others infidels (li takafaru) or killing each other (li taqatalu).

In this respect, all religions should be treated as equal, to pave the way for free and fair dialogs in interfaith groups, without any subordination from any single party.

With regard to pluralism in this country, non-Muslims have shown themselves to be more tolerant than Muslims in numerous instances.

For example, when Indonesian Moslems observed Idul Fitri on Oct. 13-14, many Christians sincerely greeted them. These wishes were conveyed by leaders on television, through newspaper advertisements and other media facilities.

Some churches, like the one close to my housing complex in Ciputat on the city outskirts, even erected banners with Idul Fitri greetings.

In prayers held at public events, non-Muslims are never bothered or worried when this session is led by Muslims, but it would be a different story if non-Muslims led the prayers.

In constructing houses of worship, non-Muslims have faced more challenges and resistance than Muslims.

Such intolerance continues to rise amid the silence of moderate Islamic leaders in the world&#039;s biggest Muslim population.

To enlighten Indonesia&#039;s Muslim community such leaders must raise the issue more frequently at major events.

This Christmas is a good opportunity for Muslim leaders to campaign for pluralism, tolerance and co-existence. At least they can start by doing the same as Christians do when they greet us during post-Ramadhan festivities.

The preaching of pluralism would be more influential and effective if leaders of Nahdlatul Ulama and Muhammadiyah -- the two biggest Muslim organizations in Indonesia -- joined hands with moderate scholars and other charismatic clerics to publicly wish Christians a Merry Christmas.

The writer can be reached at nafik@thejakartapost.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the liberal thoughts I found in the Jakarta Post.</p>
<p>A merry Christmas to all &#8211; including Muslims</p>
<p>Muhammad Nafik, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta</p>
<p>A Merry Christmas for Christians and Muslims. Why Muslims? Because Muslims should join festivities that commemorate the birth of Prophet Isa aka Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>The Koran actually cites not only Jesus&#8217; birthday, but also two other important moments in his existence &#8212; his death and the day of his resurrection. This is clearly stated in Sura Maryam (Verse of Mary): 33, &#8220;So peace is on me (Jesus) the day I was born, the day that I die and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)&#8221;.</p>
<p>If the Koran itself recorded Jesus as such, how come Muslims were prohibited by ulema from wishing Christians a merry Christmas? This goes against the fundamental truth of Islam.</p>
<p>If we are consistent in our faith, recognizing Jesus as a prophet in Islam, we should not hesitate to join his birthday celebrations. Whether our own celebrations are held in a different manner to Christians&#8217; is not an issue.</p>
<p>The statement in the Sura Maryam should, therefore, end the controversy of whether Muslims are allowed to give Christians a Christmas greeting.</p>
<p>Debates on this sensitive subject have continued to resurface each year, since the Indonesia Ulema Council issued a fatwa in 1981, banning Muslims from greeting Christians at Christmas.</p>
<p>The council said such behavior had bad implications for Muslims&#8217; common faith in Isa. The ulema said the greetings implied Muslims justified the Christian belief that Jesus is God, while Islam recognized him as a prophet.</p>
<p>The claim, which seems to be supported by many (if not most) Muslim clerics, was exaggerated and seems not to make sense given that greetings are a social courtesy. What is not allowed is for Muslims to be engaged in the ritual aspects of Christmas.</p>
<p>In the Koran, Jesus Christ is named Isa Almasih. He is described as a figure with many privileges, who was born without a father &#8212; which Christians similarly believe.</p>
<p>While Jews accused Jesus&#8217; mother Maria (Maryam, Mary) of adultery and rejected his presence on earth, Islam considered him one of the Ulul Azmi (five supreme prophets) comprising Muhammad, Abraham (Ibrahim), Moses (Musa), Noah (Nuh) and Isa (Jesus).</p>
<p>This is evidence that Islam recognizes and respects Jesus&#8217; nobility, and is the reason why we should celebrate his presence on earth, which served as a torch for the world in times of darkness and hopelessness.</p>
<p>Another substantial religious reason for Muslims to greet Christians during Christmas is the fact that the Koran promotes pluralism between communities of different faiths, ethnicities, cultures and groups.</p>
<p>The spiritual objective of this is for us to know and learn about people from other groups (li ta&#8217;arafu), to stop us fighting one another (li takhashamu), considering others infidels (li takafaru) or killing each other (li taqatalu).</p>
<p>In this respect, all religions should be treated as equal, to pave the way for free and fair dialogs in interfaith groups, without any subordination from any single party.</p>
<p>With regard to pluralism in this country, non-Muslims have shown themselves to be more tolerant than Muslims in numerous instances.</p>
<p>For example, when Indonesian Moslems observed Idul Fitri on Oct. 13-14, many Christians sincerely greeted them. These wishes were conveyed by leaders on television, through newspaper advertisements and other media facilities.</p>
<p>Some churches, like the one close to my housing complex in Ciputat on the city outskirts, even erected banners with Idul Fitri greetings.</p>
<p>In prayers held at public events, non-Muslims are never bothered or worried when this session is led by Muslims, but it would be a different story if non-Muslims led the prayers.</p>
<p>In constructing houses of worship, non-Muslims have faced more challenges and resistance than Muslims.</p>
<p>Such intolerance continues to rise amid the silence of moderate Islamic leaders in the world&#8217;s biggest Muslim population.</p>
<p>To enlighten Indonesia&#8217;s Muslim community such leaders must raise the issue more frequently at major events.</p>
<p>This Christmas is a good opportunity for Muslim leaders to campaign for pluralism, tolerance and co-existence. At least they can start by doing the same as Christians do when they greet us during post-Ramadhan festivities.</p>
<p>The preaching of pluralism would be more influential and effective if leaders of Nahdlatul Ulama and Muhammadiyah &#8212; the two biggest Muslim organizations in Indonesia &#8212; joined hands with moderate scholars and other charismatic clerics to publicly wish Christians a Merry Christmas.</p>
<p>The writer can be reached at <a href="mailto:nafik@thejakartapost.com">nafik@thejakartapost.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Mc in Cork</title>
		<link>http://jakartaku.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/allah-only-for-my-religion-islam/#comment-2586</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Mc in Cork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to zain7478, Christians do not say &#039;Jesus&#039; in all languages. That is the name used in English, Spanish and a number of other languages. But in Irish Gaelic it is Íosa, which is surprisingly close to the Arabic Isa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to zain7478, Christians do not say &#8216;Jesus&#8217; in all languages. That is the name used in English, Spanish and a number of other languages. But in Irish Gaelic it is Íosa, which is surprisingly close to the Arabic Isa.</p>
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		<title>By: zitok</title>
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		<dc:creator>zitok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Muslim myself I am constantly taken aback and almost disgusted at times when I read about the Malaysian Governments&#039; ways of asserting Islamic power in Malaysia. Of course, I am glad that they have chosen to use the Shari&#039;ah law but they don&#039;t use *all* of them, they just pick out the ones that happen to be convenient for them or would help further their motives, I&#039;m not saying this is what always happens, but it does happen pretty often. On top of that, now their doing something like this!, not only is t utterly stupid but there isn&#039;t even anything stated in Hadith or the Qur&#039;an, as far as I know anyways, that tells us to do this. 
I agree with mashedmusings and Daniel, you can&#039;t have monopoly on a word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Muslim myself I am constantly taken aback and almost disgusted at times when I read about the Malaysian Governments&#8217; ways of asserting Islamic power in Malaysia. Of course, I am glad that they have chosen to use the Shari&#8217;ah law but they don&#8217;t use *all* of them, they just pick out the ones that happen to be convenient for them or would help further their motives, I&#8217;m not saying this is what always happens, but it does happen pretty often. On top of that, now their doing something like this!, not only is t utterly stupid but there isn&#8217;t even anything stated in Hadith or the Qur&#8217;an, as far as I know anyways, that tells us to do this.<br />
I agree with mashedmusings and Daniel, you can&#8217;t have monopoly on a word.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imposing &quot;Allah only for my religion&quot; not only reflects intelligent-deficiency in the minister who provoked this argument, it is also creating harm to his religion itself. Is Islam a religion of such poor toleration and accommodation of others living within this earth? Come on ... don&#039;t be so backward and lack of confidence in your faith!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imposing &#8220;Allah only for my religion&#8221; not only reflects intelligent-deficiency in the minister who provoked this argument, it is also creating harm to his religion itself. Is Islam a religion of such poor toleration and accommodation of others living within this earth? Come on &#8230; don&#8217;t be so backward and lack of confidence in your faith!!</p>
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		<title>By: mashedmusings</title>
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		<dc:creator>mashedmusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever name we give to the divine power we worship is quite a personal matter. How can anyone else tell me the name by which I should call the divine power? Don&#039;t we humans have anything better to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever name we give to the divine power we worship is quite a personal matter. How can anyone else tell me the name by which I should call the divine power? Don&#8217;t we humans have anything better to do?</p>
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